Vampire Forum - Vampire Forums - Vampire Art - Real Life Vampires - Vampire Poems - Vampire Symbols
 
 

Go Back   Vampire Forum - Vampire Forums - Vampire Art - Real Life Vampires - Vampire Poems - Vampire Symbols > In Occult and Magick > General Magick Discussion > Witchcraft
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read vBExperience

Home Top Posters Of The Month Upload Your Photos Links

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2008, 01:25 PM
Mortal
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Credits: 20
Points: 2, Level: 1
Activity: 0%
Default Why do people who practice witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo & all other forms of darkness continue2 worship satan?

Shuttt Uppppwho you think you are to judge someone's faith? i dont believe in any of that sh!t, but if they wanna believe in it thats fine.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2008, 01:27 PM
Mortal
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Credits: 20
Points: 2, Level: 1
Activity: 0%
Default Why do people who practice witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo & all other forms of darkness continue2 worship satan?

What you and most Christians don't understand is that you do NOT have the final authority on what is truth. Your version of reality is only your version. It is NOT an absolute proven fact!I don't care if your holy book says only believers and followers in your version of God are going to Heaven and everyone else is going to Hell. There are other holy books in other religions that have different stories and different expectations. People in other belief systems often believe in reincarnation, but any evidence they give of reincarnation, you Christians always say are lies created by your Devil. Any evidence people give of ghosts, spirit guides or any non-demonic spirit, you always say are actually demons. Whenever someone beileves in a different belief system that conflicts with your own, you say they are being misguided by your Devil. Most of us pagans don't even believe in your Devil. Those who do, either see him as a relatively weak being or as one that's beneficient and misunderstood.I don't care if you claim miracles that are supposed to testify to the validity of your religion. Miracles happen every day to people of all religions. When witches work magic for the benefit of themselves and others, this is a form of miracle too. A miracle is defined as a gift of God. This definition does not imply that your version of God is the only one that's true. A miracle can be a gift from any deity.The problem we keep having with Christians and pagans having conflict comes from the different ways we view spiritual reality. Christians (and Jews and Muslems) think there is only one God and any other being that presents itself as a deity must therefore be a demon. Pagans realize that Deity is multifacited, that there are multiple gods, goddesses and even hermaphroditic deities. Our version of spiritual reality includes the posibility that Christians (or Jews or Muslems) can find spiritual enlightenment within their belief systems, because they are on a spiritual path that is right for them. But your version of spiritual reality does not see that non-Christian can find spiritual enlightenment in non-Christian belief systems, because they're on a path that is right for them.I am an eclectic pagan and believe that all images of Deity have truth in them. I do not worship Satan, but I do beileve he exists. I believe that when people believe in Satan and believe he has power, they actually give him that power. I believe that Christians are actually the biggest empowerers of the being they call Satan by way of their belief in his power. While pagans generally worship and help empower dieties who can bring blessings to humanity and to our Earth, Christians seem to need to create a constant battle between their God (viewed as representing all things "good") and an evil deity they call the Devil (viewed as representing all things "evil"). They thus create an evil being on which they can dump the responsibility for everything they don't like in the world. I guess this is easier than accepting that nature and humans are sometimes unfriendly to people, but that doesn't make them "evil". Conflict is a means for us to learn about ourselves and others. Adversity is a means for us to learn about ourselves and others. Diversity is a means for us to learn about ourselves and others. Just because you don't like something, that doesn't mean it's "evil" or from the Devil.- P.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2008, 01:30 PM
Mortal
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Credits: 20
Points: 2, Level: 1
Activity: 0%
Default Why do people who practice witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo & all other forms of darkness continue2 worship satan?

LaVeyan Satanists view their selves as a god, they don't actually worship Satan. There aren't that many Theistic Satanists out there. And, most of the time witches and people that are involved with sorcery and voodoo don't worship Satan. It's not even "dark" as you put it. It's usually associated with nature. Most of those deities are figures from nature, too. You should learn not to generalize people, or at least categorize them correctly.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2008, 01:32 PM
Mortal
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Credits: 20
Points: 2, Level: 1
Activity: 0%
Default Why do people who practice witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo & all other forms of darkness continue2 worship satan?

Perhaps I should answer with my own question.Why do many Christians insist on shoehorning the world into the worldview provided by their book?Because that is what you are doing.Firstly, you seriously need to do some actual factual research into the topics into which you are sticking your nose. Put the Bible down, and do some real research. Read the good, the bad, the ugly and find some people whom actually work within the paradigms you've named and get to know them, you mostly will be pleasently surprised.And, you'll also be amazed that hardly any actually worship Satan at all, whom is a construct of your belief system. Hel, even Satanists for the most part don't worship Satan. Yes, you definitely need to get out more.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2008, 01:34 PM
Mortal
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Credits: 20
Points: 2, Level: 1
Activity: 0%
Default Why do people who practice witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo & all other forms of darkness continue2 worship satan?

Satan? Where?? *looks around* Ohhh there he is. Right in the Christian Bible because funny thing, the Jews don't believe in the devil. So where exactly did you guys get that bunch of crap anyhow?
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2008, 01:37 PM
Mortal
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Credits: 20
Points: 2, Level: 1
Activity: 0%
Default Why do people who practice witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo & all other forms of darkness continue2 worship satan?

You poor *******. You tried to 'save' people by informing them of your absolute knowledge and look what happened....you got schooled and put in your place. I pity you and your kind who think you will live in some city in the clouds paved in gold with lions and lambs laying next to each other in eternal happiness. You're no different than the fanatical Muslims who think they will have 40 virgins in their heaven waiting for them for murdering and torturing innocent people. How sad and pathetic all of you make this world.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 09-20-2008, 06:23 PM
Vamprous's Avatar
Fledgeling
 

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Texas, Astral, where ever i am needed
Posts: 47
Credits: 1,040
Points: 140, Level: 2
Activity: 0%
Send a message via MSN to Vamprous Send a message via Yahoo to Vamprous
Default

ok first of all Wiccans do not even acknowledge the Existance of Satan/the Devil. Secondly, Satan/The Devil is a MAN MADE being. Concockted by Christians Way back before it became a Major Religion. They Created Satan/The Devil after seeing a Pagan/Wiccan Picture of The Great Horned God (that is his name) and thusly dubed him as Satan/The Devil. Thirdly (and this is a little off the topic) The Virgin Mary, Was Stolen from the Pagans, It was Originaly a Statue of The Mother Goddess, that was Draped in Robes, and Became the Virgin Mary. Any Other Questions?
__________________
They say that the Sands of Time hold great Knowledge, All i see is an Organized Mess.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 09-20-2008, 06:46 PM
Bex's Avatar
Bex Bex is offline
Loyal Subject
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sweden
Age: 17
Posts: 1,087
Credits: 8,533
Points: 2,450, Level: 29
Activity: 0%
Send a message via MSN to Bex
Default

I am so tired of hearing.. "If you do this and that you will go to hell"
I am also tired of people who assume things that isn't true.. like many people have said here..
All satanist does not believe in satan.. all people who practise witchcraft, sorcery, voodoo and all other stuff does not believe in satan either.
And who are you to condem them to hell?!? Do you think that you are God?
Even though I do not believe in him.. if there is a heaven and a hell I think that he would be the only one to condem someone..
I personally hate people who think that just because they believe in something greater then themself they become as great..
That is so wrong.. Just look at this worlds history,... almost all the wars here have been fought because of religion.. the christian religion (umm don't take this personally but it is the truth) I just don't get why some people have to condem others just because they don't believe in the same thing....
__________________
~Bite me ~

I am not evil
I have the heart of a young girl
In a jar on my desk
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 09-20-2008, 11:17 PM
mistkist's Avatar
Pupil
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Washington State
Posts: 268
Credits: 4,082
Points: 818, Level: 15
Activity: 0%
Send a message via MSN to mistkist
Default

What a worthless, ignorant ass.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 09-21-2008, 12:25 AM
XthornX's Avatar
Pupil
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: walbridge,ohio
Age: 15
Posts: 114
Credits: 1,443
Points: 364, Level: 7
Activity: 4%
Send a message via AIM to XthornX
Default

i think that some worship satan but most of the forms of religons you listed don't recognize the existance of satan. the few that worship satan do so (from what ive learned) because he knows rejection and pain which is something familiar to them. where as "god" knows nothing but power and they think of him as unfeeling. like he doesnt give two shits about us. but the devil takes the time to try to get you on his side, inferring that he wants you mkore than"god" does
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:47 AM.

Design Developed by CompleteGFX
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Advertisement System V2.5 By   Branden
www.vampireforum.net

Witchcraft History - History Of Satan - Vampire Forum - Occult Forums - History Of Tarot Cards - History Of Wicca

 

These are the 100 most searched terms
Search Cloud
am i a vampire are vampires real are vampires real? aset ka forum vampire goth hairstyles html:iframe-gen list of vampire names real life vampire real life vampires real vampire real vampire chat real vampire chat rooms real vampire names real vampire pictures real vampire stories real vampires temple of the vampire twilight fanfiction vampir forum vampire 626 vampire art vampire chat vampire chat room vampire chat rooms vampire families vampire forum vampire forums vampire graphics vampire hair vampire hair ideas vampire hair styles vampire hairstyle vampire hairstyle ideas vampire hairstyles vampire movies 2009 vampire names vampire poem vampire poems vampire poetry vampire stories vampire symbols vampire tattoo vampire tattoos vampireforum vampireforum.net vampires forum vampires forums vampires real vampiric symbols ... powered by Simple Search Cloud