There are vampires here who have been Turned!!! lol Enchanted was Turned. So was Vladimir, and Abe Corvinus and his wife, Alexandria. I personally Turned DEADBLACKCROW and til_deathx3. Whatever you want to call it, Turning, Awakening, they have the same outcome. Nearly everyone has the genes that can cause Awakening. Simply causing these genes to become active is Turning. It's simply a difference of word yet they mean the same thing.

I completely agree... I don't think it should matter if you believe in Turning, Awakening... As long as they come out the same, does it really matter... As I've said many a times before, If a person really believes something sooo much, it will happen.. The mind is a very powerful thing..

yes I agree, but it is good to clearify, due to process of how you came to be.

but as of now, it is word against word until specific scientific research and proof is shown

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Aye, I believe that my vampyrism is a spiritual condition, my soul is vampyric and my physical body takes on these differences and gives physical manifestation to my spiritual needs for energy. It also manifests my baser predatory nature to gain this need.

As for "turning," most in the Community believe that there's no way to turn others, just to awaken them. Through my beliefs, I believe there is a way to change someone spiritually, and it is a very specific ritual and should only be performed by a stable and capable person who knows the spirit and its complexities. As for awakening others, it can happen instantly during a feeding, or it could take time for the awakening to be spurred. But with this the vampiric condition has to be present and in remission and needing to be awakened. It can't be transfered to another through a bite. It has to be a blood exchange. But this is my own opinions and I'm distracted, so I may have left out some details. If you want to ask me some questions let me know.

i believe that there is a gene present in the makeup of a mortal and if you "bite" the right one you can embrace them

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I believe that one could be turned, even if they never had the potential to ever become a vampire. I'm not talking sangunairan vampire either. I'm talking about phy-vampirism. If enough of your "essence" (or whatever you want to call it) is drained, practically to the point of death, your body may have an automatic reaction, and begin to drain energy from their surroundings, including the vampire themselves. This has led me to believe that MAYBE the same is true for a sagunairian vampire, but I do not think so. It could be made into a logical conclusion, but I would not suggest that it is tried. I may be partially human, but even I can instinctivly tell if too much blood is gone from another's body, and it's not pretty when it happens. I have a question for anyone that reads this, and if you would be so inclined as to send me a message somehow, I would greatly appreciate it. These words were once spoken to me by my very...very...close friend Renuka Kross, for whom I have the deepest respect for him, his knowledge, and the guidence that the demon has given me.

"Are you truly a vampire, if you deny your need for blood? Can a vampire truly be a vampire, if he clings on so greatly to his humanity? What kind of vampire are you, who cannot shed his humanity and feast on the blood of your prey? Why do you cling to your former self, when we both know, that all you want to do, is drain their blood for your own."

are these words true? I can barely control my lust for blood now, and it's been getting worse, but how can I truly call myself a vampire, when I can only cling to the things that make me human. No matter how much I try to rid myself of the emotions, and keep myself from being human, I can't do it...sorry to ask...but help?

Aye, this is the dilema we all face. We have the more baser nature of a feral beast, which added to our already dominant natures, we become like animals, needing to feed and satisfy that lust for blood/energy. I, myself, have trouble letting go of my human side, falling again and again into the world of humanity and getting stuck there, far from my vampiric nature which so much a part of me. The key is to find a balance between your human side and your Other nature(s). To hold a balance between all these things is to be at peace within yourself. If you learn to meditate and to separate what makes you human and what makes you "different," you'll see those differences in a new light, and you'll find that balance if you look hard enough. You'll see that the rages and the lust get easier to control.

As for draining the life essence of someone almost to the last little bit and then re-enegergizing them, all that does is either spark an awakening of something that was already there, or give them a condition referred to as sympathetic vampirism. This condition develops in a person who's energy levels have dropped to a very low standard at which point the body can't sustain itself and it can't naturally replenish this energy fast enough, so it develops a need to begin feeding to regain this energy. As Michelle Belanger explains it in her Codex, you can maintain this quasi-vampiric state indefinitely if you want. Yet you are different from true vampires who have the absolute condition that causes them to need and require energy.

Okay, I hope this helps, if you have any more questions, or if I didn't address the issue good enough, let me know. ^_^

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i agree with abe on this... in order to be turned into a vampire you would need to geneticly one already.

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Yes, I believe that is also the reason we mortals cannot embrace another into immortality, because though we hold the vampiric nature or genetic disposition, we don't hold enough genetic coding to pass on to another to awaken the immortal vampiric genes inherent in them. That is why either a coven of such people are used in embracing another in a concentrated effort, or an immortal being would have to do it. Am I wrong, Abe? I'm not divulging any more details, though, because of the danger of anyone trying it.

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