i died many times , and been killed many times ( better to speak about what i know ) is true , i don't know the ultimate truth about the weres soul , i just presumed , did not follow them , just assumed is not mortal , at least not like human soul
you see it mortal ? or of a different level of mortality ? how do you see it ?
( as i said ago i prefer not to interfere with them cause i don't like them very much ) and if is mortal why is given this attention to them ( i've seen few topics on this forum , like an obsession )

Um, yes, everything that exists on this plane can be destroyed, but as Lady Alex said, one must know how to do so. HLVs, Human Living Vampires, can be killed by anything that can kill any other human or mortal. We're just more likely to have the strength and intuition to avoid things that would bring us harm.

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i am not attached so much to this plane , and i don't see my Self as being limited to the one existing on this plane , this plane is one in a bilion of planes , i don't really care of this plane more than others , so being killed in this one , is nothing more than in others, in fact is nothing

Yes, the plains. Travels upon travels I have for gone. Yet it is not the body that goes into those plains. It is the soul that travels through out each world. In these world one can be any thing that they wish. For each world there seems to be a different body but not a body as it is here on this plain. Because the body has been born with in this world it is attached to it. We, even vampires, leave this body for too long then it will eventualy die. But you say that you could careless of this plain.

When those who do not care those are just in fault making the world the way it is as much if not more then those who actually make the world an awful place to live in. If you see so much beauty in all those other worlds and not with in this then I would have to say that your eyes are truely not open. There are just as much good with in this world as there is bad. Just because you don't see it does not mean that it's not there.
One must be happy with there selves before they can be truely happy. It would not matter what world you travele one day unless you find your self a reason to want to live then all the other worlds will become just as dull as this one.

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i did not said i care less for this plane , i said i don't care about this plane more than about the other planes , and for sure my reason to live doesn't reside in this plane more than others
to fullfill your need for 'caring' let's say i care for all of them in the same way , in fact is not always 'care' what i do , i prefer to consider it as keeping the ballance right
This plane is not my origin , is just another one that i travel
to be more simple what i am trying to say is that i'm not identifying myself with the body in this plane
I am my Soul and my Self ,not the body
We indeed see the beauties and horrors of many worlds ,but everyone of them is the beauty of nature itself i can't love this one more than others , even the worst ones .
By nature i am not attached of them ( that means stagnation for me ) , that doesn't mean that i don't appreciate beauty and good things , or my eyes are not open ,in fact it's quite the oposite while i see so many things
-death is just one of them, not the most fearful
The body in this plane is not different from the bodies in others , i think it depends only on how much are you attached to this plane .
And i realise now why many see vampire soul as no soul ,or cold soul , maybe that's why they call it dead soul

Okay, but back to the original topic, we're asking questions about werewolves, so let's not hyjack this thread. If you want to, you can start a thread no the spirit and such under philosophy or where ever you deem it worthy to be. I would love to read more, I believe my own vampirism is a spiritual thing more than anything else. But I learned my lesson when we ruined Dagon's thread on blood seals, lol.

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i my previous post i did ask some questions about weres soul , i assume it's not mortal and i would like to know from the ones who know more about how they see it ? mortal ? of another level of mortality ? what means to kill a were , you mean kill it forever or just in a plane ?

Well, the way I see it, if you destroy something physically, ie, "kill it," you are simply ending a life, not destroying the immortal soul. So if I die right now my body will cease to function but my soul will move on to its next destination. But, if you use energy and magick to also destory the soul, then that is the final death, in my opinion. If one kills the soul then there is no longer a consciousness or existence so there is nothing but a memory of who you once were left over and your energy scatters to the four corners to be absorbed back into the universal energy. So, in conclusion to this, I say again, if you kill the physical body of a being on any plane, it is not the end of that being's existence, their soul will move on, yet if you destroy the soul, that is the end of a being's existence and their energy is absorbed back into the Universal Energy since it no longer has a consciousness or will to hold that energy into a cohesive "soul body."

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Hellen I must apologize for what I had said. I had misunder stood you and now that you have explain better I see your point. As for the were soul. I do believe that once you kill the physical for of a lycan the soul ends up some where else and there could be a chance that like other spirits that it may say behind on this plain.
I do not believe that you can destory a soul. To me a dead soul has no longer any wants. In what ever form even a lycan soul basically to put it could have a broken heart. I do believe that once a soul has lifted from the physical form and if is destored it still lives but can not no longer return to this plain. I do not see a lycan soul any different from any one elses.

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Sorry, I must disagree with you on this, Lady Alexandria. Simply put, anything that can be created can be destroyed. Yet in this case of energy, it is not so much complete destruction as it is change, for energy cannot be destroyed. Yet once the consciousness and will of a person's soul is "removed" from the equation, what is there to hold that energy together into a "solid" form that we call the soul? It is our will that gives thought to our form and it is through thought that we maneuver ourselves through the realms and to interact with energy. Therefore a soul without consciousness or will would cease being a soul and would break down and that energy would disipate into the natural currents of energy of existence. It is the same concept for the consciousness and will; if you destroy or drain the enegy body beyond a point of sustainment, then it will naturally break down and lose it's ability to support its existence. Usually will dictates that one take in more energy at this point, resulting in a vampiric state, yet in the end if someone wishes a direct attack to result in harm to someone, they would cut off that person's access to energy sources. This would leave them vulnerable to energy drain without a "recharge" of energy and they would eventually burn themselves out and their consciousness would pass out of existence, all thoughts and will either moving on to some other form or simply being absorbed by the attacker. Make sense?

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