"astral"=spirit, that is how this term was coined. In essence this is what people mean when they refer to astral, lol. But no matter, it's all in the eyes of the reader, lol, wow, I just realize how humerous that was, >_<.

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VF Mentor and self-proclaimed know-it-all!!!

Remote Viewing is something that for me, I can do, but to be able to fully control it, I must practice. I believe that I have seen the future in my dreams, which I interpret as a form of this, but not all dreams of mine come true.

Astral projection, I will agree is a different matter. With Remote Viewing, one is only in essence *perceiving* the plane; while astral projection seeks to transcend the plane.

Imagine for yourself coming to a door. Remote Viewing will give you all the different attributes of the door, such as the colour, size, what the door is made out of, what colour the knob is, etc, but astral projection is when you actually turn the handle and go through the door. This reality is the door.

If I've helped visualization (I've yet to test this method myself) for any one of you, let me know.

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The only god that I seem to follow is the dollar. It defines what I can and cannot have. It provides security and brings me food, granted if I can perform the ritual of "buying". High-priests of this god demand that I work in the temple so that way I am contributing to the institution as whole. I'm working at accomplishing training so that way I can then accept greater tutelage and move up in the hierarchy.

---- And that folks, is a good analogy for our society, IMHO.