hahahahaha Great idea
I'm gonna find my stash now

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[quote=harriettt;19089]Smoker's SHOULD smoke behind their own doors. It's a filthy habit that harms not only you, but people around you. It's disrespectful to smoke in public, IMO, because it's showing you don't care about other people.

This is what I will say when it comes to smoking. We have no rights. Those (Not all) that don't smoke believe that they should be able to control every place that a human or any one goes. The earth is a wide place and I my self have friends that do not smoke and they say the only time that smoke doesn't bother them if they are out side. It bothers them in side because it filles the room. As for being disrespectful that I will not take. I am not one to be disrespectful to others. I alone have a room set a side for those friends that do not smoke.
I ask you this does the smoker pay taxes. Do we not work as you do? A lot of those smokers have to pay the price because of high taxes on the cigerette alone. Those taxes go to pay for schools, roads, goverment jobs and any thing else that taxes pays for. Are you say that we have less rights? Do you not have two legs to move if you do not like it. How about when I stand next to one of those ash trays for out doors I stand from the door and put the cigarette out on the ground. Darn that wouldn't be right because then we would be littering the earth. So, I ask you is it that only those who do not smoke get to enjoy the great out doors. Do you exspect us to obey like servants and say yes we'll stop smoking. How about this then, lets start putting up buildings to where smokers can go. But no that would be considered a public place to. Yet, those that drink are allow to drink with in a building around public in that place. As a smoker we have no where to go to do some thing that we enjoy.
I'm not a big goth person but I don't look at those people and say that you shouldn't do that because I don't like it. No I respect those that enjoy what it is that they do. Now, if there are those who have health problems then I am more then happy to move so that the smoke doesn't bother them. Heck I even had an old couple long a go who could not take the smoke. When they where sited next to my husaband and I. When they were talking about asking to move because of the elderly woman's health problems we said to them that we would move. The woman said to us that they would move. That it's bad enough that soon your RIGHTS would be taken from you to go any where

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I'm sorry, but for the sake of arguement, I don't mean any disrespect to you, Alexandria.

I ****ing hate smoking! It is a nasty habit, it puts all kinds of chemicals in your body that ruin it, it causes cancer, and not just in the smoker, but what about Second-hand Smoke? It affects everyone, not just you! That is why the ban on public smoking, because of the affects it has on everyone else. It's not about you or your personal preference, it is about the safety of the public's health. And don't come back about drinking or drugs at a bar, I'm talking about something that will cause a cronic illness in other people who have perfectly healthy lungs. You as an immortal may not be privvy to these effects, but we mortals are. It has been proven that people who live with smokers who smoke around them are more succeptable to lung diseases caused by smoke, thus the ban on smoking in public places.

Okay, I'm done with my rant. No hard feelings to you, Lady Alexandria, it's just that I've had some major problems with this in my family, and with my ex as well. >_< I hate smoking, and I can't see the reason behind it at all (cigarettes and marijana).

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you also ruin your body by drinking, eating unhealthy or simply breathing. oxygen kills the cells, that is why mortals are not immortals.

Your phsysical body is not important, it is only your that counts.

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I ****ing hate smoking! It is a nasty habit, it puts all kinds of chemicals in your body that ruin it, it causes cancer, and not just in the smoker, but what about Second-hand Smoke? It affects everyone, not just you! That is why the ban on public smoking, because of the affects it has on everyone else. It's not about you or your personal preference, it is about the safety of the public's health. And don't come back about drinking or drugs at a bar, I'm talking about something that will cause a cronic illness in other people who have perfectly healthy lungs. You as an immortal may not be privvy to these effects, but we mortals are. It has been proven that people who live with smokers who smoke around them are more succeptable to lung diseases caused by smoke, thus the ban on smoking in public places.

You say not to bring up drinking in a bar. Okay a father/mother goes to the bar and comes home drunk to their children. This goes on as the child gets older. The parent is actually a good parent and does no real harm toward the rest of the family. There for the childbelieves drinking it okay. Parent dies of a heart attack. A normal cause that no matter what you do unhealth it can come to any one. Child does the same process as the parent but the child dies a long death from his or her liver dying.
A child grows up in a house hold where the family eats a lot. There for the child eats a lot and at a much younger age then the parents gain weight unheathy sieze. This child has the a lot more trouble then his or her parents by the time they are twenty.
As for a bar or some thing. What I don't I don't understand is why is it that those who can have place to a drink and then possibly drive drunk and kill others and if as a smoker I want just a smokers bar that is not allow. To where posting of a sign warrans others that the place is where smokers are and only smokers. Enter on own risk. No, Tobis no offense taken.

Ninja if I offened you I am sorry. I was not speaking of all non-smokers. In fact when I am in a conversation with a non-smoker I ask if they mind if I smoke. If they ask me not to then I will not and wait till the conversation is over or if it is for a long period of time I step off to the side and have my smoke.

Morgoth as for the oxgen to the blood you are half right. When it comes to an immortal the cell regenerat and heal unlike those of a mortal.

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Good chance that, if not a vampire as an immortal way, that you do have a high cell regeneration then what most mortals do. Good chance that you have the gene (if I spelled right) of being a vampire also. That would my best guess. No, you didn't really come out as if you were offened but wanted to make sure that's all.

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First i must comment on Tobias remarks about 4 months ago i lost a very close and good friend due to some ****ing ******* drinking and driving.He left behind a wife and children. so please dont set up on you high horse and tell me that drinking isnt as bad as smoking. And you are right Tobias Alexandria is an immortal as I am so yes it is nice to not die from smoking. And if you dont like the smell of smoke like i said before dont breath. It just amazes me how people can just set back and let the governing body destroy the rights of it people. Arent we the ones who put them in office, pay their salaries? And yet in my OWN office building that i have bought I HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE TO SMOKE. So if anyone would like to ****ing explain that one to me feel free to because i just dont understand it.

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Firstly, I never said it was right to drink but not to smoke. Neither are healthy habits for anyone. What I was referring to was using it as an excuse to make it right for you to argue your smoking habits around others. This is BS, I'm sorry but it is. We have rights, yes, we have the right not to have to deal with smokers in public places if we don't want to, and to insure that this takes place protesters have filed petitions after petitions taht have passed eventually into law, to insure that the public health is not at risk. I have a touch of asthma now because my mom smoked all her life and while she was pregnant with me. I'm not immortal, I am succeptable to the affects of second-hand smoke. Look it up, you'll see how your smoking affects others and how much you are bringing harm to them. Isn't it a sin to harm others? I'm not meaning to put anything on you or your beliefs, this is simply how I feel. I cannot sit back silently while another person's "habit" (and yes, that's all it is, is a legal drug) brings harm to others. If I offend, I apologize to the utmost, but I can't help the way I feel about this and I hope you can understand and not hate me too much. >_<

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