Yeah hun I was. Reason is that these people are going to have a nice little debate and here you are butting in. I thought the reason for debates is to prove or try to prove to the other person that your right. Then the other puts their statement down to prove that person wrong. etc.

All i was doing was warning the other fellow that Tobias is wise and he may prove him wrong that is all i was doing EVH.

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Oh, I see that dear Mr.Lucky. Sorry if I came out rude. Just wonder sweet heart.

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No problem

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Well this has become intresting but I created this post to talk about blood seals. I cant stop smiling because I love a good challenge but nothing I say can reach ears that wont hear me. This debate is on side that have been argued for ever really. The side of logic and the side of spiritualism. Personally I think every type of person has reason to be called what they are and it can be proven. But there is also many things that cannot not be explained or able to be grasped by normal peoples understanding. Thus this gives us our conundrum. But I can never give up a challenge

I dont know the whole past life thing on how it works or if it even exists but I do know that when we die the energy in out brains that contains who we are as beings has to go somewhere. But for the sake of more argument lets say when you die you come back in some sentient form. If I was a bird in a previous life I cannot recall the memories and be able to fly. If your soul in a previous life was a demon that doesnt make you one now. A demon is a soul that is completely corrupted and embodies for lack of a better word evil. You cannot be a demon if your soul is not completely corrupt. Plus most demons never get their soul released because of their ties to this world. Even though you where a demon in a past life the soul recreates itself when its energy is released and although remnaments remain the soul is still not corrupt. Calling upon remnants of a demon is even more dangerous as it can corupt a soul and control it. Even though you may be physically human you soul is more like a puppet and thats when people like me have to act. But thats my secret and not meant for public view and rereading this dang does it make me feel like a nerd or a phyco lol. And I argue now not for you tobias whos ears have fallen deft to my argument but to everyone else who like me loves to hear arguments.

P.S. I welcome being diproved and beaten in arguments because it only means that I know more and can be open to ideas though I wont think im wrong till I admit it. Im excited for the next couple of posts.

Okay, well here it goes, lol.

Firstly, my ears are not deft to your arguements, I simply accept my way of thinking, consider your words, and disprove them with my own personal knoweldge and experiences. In my experience, demons are creatures like vampires whom require a certain form of energy to exist, specifically dark energies, negative or otherwise called "evil." This doesn't make them evil, yet most of them choose, as we all do, to make evil decisions because this is the easiest way to acquires this energy. This does indeed corrupt the soul of these beings, because just as psychic vampires, if you take in one form of energy for a long time you take on the emotions and mind-set of those emotions. This is why most people see them as evil, dark creatures, because they are most noted for causing accidents, corrupting lives, and generally making malicious actions against people, to cause them to feel negativity and they feed from it. These beings are naturally adapted to negative energy, and the realm they exist in, which I call the Nethers, is constructed of this energy.

For those who do not exist primarily on that plane, they have to seek outside source of energy, so they become attatchments to humans often. My mate and her sister had leechers, as I call them. They made them feel very dark and evil things all throughout their lives, and influenced those around them and certain events, so that they could feed from them (each of them had a demon a piece in them, my mate had two). We bound and sealed their bindings to the Earth until they can be destroyed or absorbed.

As for me being a demon, there are actually neutral demons who choose to feed from random negativity yet remain unaffected. One of my ex's spirit guides was a warrior demon (I can't honestly remember the name, it's been a long time since I heard it). She was being reformed by pairing up with another life guide to aid my ex, and this in turn teaches her demon guide to interact with others in a positive way. So yes, demons can exist without being pure evil, yet I will say that they have a very difficult time of it, as I've observed.

My demon spirit is an outside spirit that has bonded with me. I awaken in a certain order each lifetime to help me to deal with the next awakening. This lifetime my demon will finally awaken and I will have to deal with all the negative thoughts; hell, I already have very evil thoughts at random, dealing with emotions so chaotic that it is hard to tell what I really feel. But, yes, in my opinion, demons can be, if not positive, at least neutral in comparison to the evil, murdering creatures demons are made out to be.

Okay, I have to run out, but I hope I answered satisfactorily. If not, I'll come back and respond should you require more information from me. Life calls, lol.

EDIT: Wow, thanks for the compliment...I think it was a compliment, but I shall take it as such, lol.

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okay, I don't agree that demons are good in any sort of way. Though I'm not saying it's possible but i am saying that those i've had to fight are the kind that you can talk to. They would rip your throat out, watch you bleed and laugh while your dieing. It isn't nice to see some one die when they die in the other worlds. Their bodies convulse as though they had been possed. What's worse is that their bodies don't die but that link between their soul and shell does. Unless you want to watch that person starve or be a vetable for the rest of their lives you your self have to end it for them. Most of the time we wait for a while in hopes that what was in the other world may be able to build back up but some times that just doesn't happen. Demons in my veiw are evil.
Demon is a word for basically evil spirits. Pending on religion veiw. christain bible they are from hell. Most wiccans it's an evil spirit.

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Well I basically agree ith Alex because in all definitions of a demons it is a corrupt soul who creates negative or dark energy and feasts on it to become stronger but it wont die from starvation. You are basically describing a psi vamp who feeds on dark energy. We have different opinions on the definition of demons but you can look almost anywhere and the definition will relatively be the same as mine. Demons cannot be anything but evil because thats what they are by definition is a corrupt soul that causes negative thoughts and feelings so it can feast on them.

I would agree with you Mother, i was raised a Catholic and i was taught from a young age that demons are from Hell and that they are evil.

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Tobias can call him self what he likes because names only give identity to reality. If he calls this part of his soul he may do so but he must know the consequinces for useing a name thats already in use.

That is basically deft or stubborn but I respect your way of thinking